A Rejoinder To “We The Stupid Southerners” - By Rudolf Ogoo Okonkwo

By Muhammad Ibn Umar

My Dear Brother, Rudolf Ogoo Okonkwo: Good morning, Sir.  I read your article published by this medium titled “We the Stupid Southerners”. It was an interesting reading to which I would like to respond as contained herein.  How I wish I could meet you face-to-face for us to discuss this our Nigerian Project in at least some more humorous way. However, this meeting is not a pre-requisite for me to make my point to your innate conviction, regardless of what your mouth/pen may utter/'scribe'.

This is because you have already agreed with me that the matter is not as simple as you have presented it. To quote your respected self: ...QUOTE - I know the matter is more complicated than this. I know there are Christians in the North. I know it is not absolutely a matter of North and South. I know it has been said that there is a silent majority in the North that is welcoming and willing to live in peace with others.- QUOTE ... If you knew all these, then what are these old , belated and over-used North and Muslim things that you are still talking about and what are your objectives for such a topic at this time when the Nigerian President is a Southerner and appears to be trying his best with his team. Have you forgotten that, in the immediate past when the Nigerian President (Yar'adua) was a Northerner, it was in the South that he had a cause to grant an amnesty to some militants for a lingering militant crisis?
 
Please, Sir, for the avoidance of doubt, I am a Northern Muslim. I do not feel happy whenever I come across Nigerians who display ignorance about their country in a manner akin to foreigners; such foreigners who would suggest that a solution to Nigeria's problem is to divide the country into 2 - the Muslim North and the Christian South. If I may ask, who has ever known the population of Christians in the North, and Muslims in the South; do you know? What is even the population of Nigeria, who knows; with the type of censuses that the FGN's "census" would state that Lagos State has less than 10 million while Lagos' State Govt's "census" would provide a figure of over 17 million? Then Mr or Mrs UN would just extrapolate from whatever is at its disposal and quote just any figure.
 
Please, Sir, I assume that you are acting on your own, not fronting for any agent-provocateurs. Otherwise, I would not be reacting. First of all, you demonstrated so much ignorance about the purpose for the creation of man, hence, you are also either ignorant of his history or you have deliberately chosen to demonstrate such ignorance for reasons yet to be determined. Thus, it would seem that you want an easy way out. I am sorry, Sir, there is no easy way out of Nigeria's problems some of which are not of Nigerian origins; don't try to deceive the Ibos or Southerners for whom you are posturing as a voice, so that you do not inadvertently deceive the world in the process.
 
A genuine approach to solving Nigeria's problem would require some degree of circumspect that is strongly rooted in sincerity, and emboldened by a sound educational background that has great respect for some knowledge of human history; especially, as it affects the history of precedence, and foresight. All these would have to be evidently grounded in selflessness, as against the objective of attaining cheap popularity.
 
Sir, you must know that it is not the nature of man to be uni-directional in anything he does. Thus, you must look round before you talk. The World of the Angels is different from the World of Mankind; the angels lack the inherent capacity to deviate from Truth and Righteousness, while Man is granted a Limited Free Will, by virtue of which he can do what he likes and be made to account for his actions. This is God's decree which was promulgated out of His abundant wisdom, with neither a Senate nor House of Representatives. And it will remain so.
 
I have no doubt in my mind that Mr Okonkwo has hardly ever visited Northern Nigeria; at least not in the last decade. You are only a news reader. Even then, Sir, you seem to be reading only news about the North; those aspects of Northern news that fit your pre-conception. Otherwise, you would have known, by now, that most Northerners are more worried than you about these problems which are not limited to the North and most of which are not of Northern origin. How would Mr Okonkwo rate the animal act of the recent gang raping at Abia State University; with the perpetrators video-recording such an act and broadcasting it around the civilised world, and then the State Govt had the affront to declare that it was fake? What was your contribution in the Sahara media to this incident that happened in front of your house? this was not an isolated incident.
 
Sir, we should not assess the World of Man as if we were in the angelic world. It is normal, in man's world, for example, for the US (the World Police Force, the Father and Mother of Democracy and Human Rights)to Veto the Palestinian bid for Independence (She is posed to do so and the world believes she would do so) and also withdrew its contributions to UNESCO for accepting Palestinian membership. It would sometimes use UN (that is responsible for preventing wars)to attack any country of its choice, and sometimes it went ahead to do so of its own accord. Yet all these countries (The Palestinian nation which is older than the US, Israel that has undergone metamorphosis at different times, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Germany, Italy, Japan, etc)have continued to meet on the same floor of the UN; such a thing is normal in the Human World only, where we live.
 
Sir, with due sincerity, anybody who is alive to his responsibilities should have known by now that the World of Humans is passing through a tumultuous stage since the last 2 decades or there-about; Nigeria is only having its own share of the global turbulent crises which cut across political and socio-economic spheres. So, no matter how aggrieved we feel on some sensitive issues, we should endeavour to express such feelings with maturity. Nigeria is an Artificial creation which was permitted by Nature and may have come to stay. So, let us think more about how we can help the system to positively manage our diversity.
 
Lastly, the Mandela advice: Nigerians should be wary of people who seek for cheap popularity by designing easy ways out of our complex national problems as a result of Intellectual Laziness. A Complex Problem requires a Complex Solution.
 
Thank you, Sir, Mr Okonkwo and Sahara Reporters, for giving me this opportunity.
 
Muhammad Ibn Umar

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Wow, this is a strong letter

Wow, this is a strong letter and you have done an amazing job of getting all of your points across in a way that anyone reading can understand. I think that division is never a good thing.

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Whatever is good for Nigeria

This stupid beef between north and South('south-south') is very annoyin.Are they the only class of people in Nigeria. I just want what's best for Nigeria;if its to stay together and make the appropriate changes-good,if its to split up-good!

Yes, a complex entity like

Yes, a complex entity like ours requires complex solutions proffered by very active & intelligent minds and maybe we can move forward BUT you and i know we have to wait till 2015 before any hope of a leader that can chart this part again. But before 2015, will i still be alive? will you still be alive? wont the police, soldier, robber, hausa, ibo, yoruba...man we meet on the road on a bad day shoot us down or stab us to death.

How many of us will be left before 2015 comes, will even GEJ make it to 2015 "alive".

Time To Revolt

I observed my NYSC year in

I observed my NYSC year in zamfara state at the hieght of the sharia brouhaha and what I know for sure is that Hausa people need the enforcement of sharia because you will find the most pervert, drug prone, jazz/demonic loving people amongst them but alas, the sharia is a facade. Everything it is supposed to fight still happens albeit in secrecy to the knowledge of all (who is fooling who).

I am a Yoruba muslim and i understand my religion, i also can say i undastand my country, our problem is not religious but tribal (the north being the most guilty), ignorance (the north being the most guilty) and greed (the south being the most guilty). The average northerner is satisfied with whatever comes his way honestly and will say thank you to God. 90% of southerners will lust for more than he needs always and will kill just to feel bigger than the next man.

Rudolph has a right to

Rudolph has a right to express himself as he so wishes, why? because this is a free country

Ibn umar, you have a right to express yourself as well, for the same simple reason that you are in a free country BUT common sense must prevail no matter what freedom one has. While you have one or two line in your rejoinder that point to the fact that you can analyse and present forth some facts, there is still that undertone of the big difference between the North & South in your presentation. This is the overtly aggressive and violent nature of northerners (NOT MUSLIMS).

just like the Arabs, the Hausas/fulanis have an history characterised with savage violence. Islam was supposed to & as been trying to curtail this inate nature of this tribes mentioned (Arabs/Hausas/Fulanis). Pick out 10 people from this tribes randomly and you will most definitely find a knife on 8 of them.

Re rejionder by Ibn Umar

What solution has Ibn Umar proffered for the problem of sectarian violence in the north?

Southerners have no respect for northerners

Every response from the southerner shows disrespect for the north and northerners and total dissect by Christian southerners to Islam. We in Islam cannot insult one of the greatest prophets of God, Jesus (ISA, peace be upon him). But Christians in southern Nigeria are highly disrespectful and intolerant of other faiths. That is why Pastor Tunde Bakare refer to them as idiots ruled by fools (Jonathan and co). I realize that most southerners, no matter their level of education are very ignorant, and I hope that one day they would be exposed to decency and civilization. People who do not have the ability to put forward their ideas resort to insults, thereby exhibiting their daftness. Ibn Umar has said it all. Take his lesson as the first one, otherwise you would provoke Boko Haram that has the capacity to infiltrate as far as the Atlantic Ocean.

Muhammad Ibn Umar's rejoinder another view!

I can't understand why Nigerians don't respect other peoples opinion without dehumanizing them or hauling unnecessary insult at them. First off, what Mr Okonkwo wrote about the North is simply his opinion. What I discerned from reading Muhammad Ibn Umar's rejoinder was he is trying to dispel the preconceived notion that all Northerners are killers. Though, Mr Okonkwo noted in his write-up that not all Northerners appreciate the orgy of killings commenced by some isolated groups in that part of the country.

Either way both opinions have some merit but also questionable-debatable!

Though, I am amiss that some individuals that can't engage in a cordial discourse are quick to revert to insult and disrespecting others they've never met or know. What does that say about Nigerians in totality? Nigeria's problem is a complex one and I have to say there is enough faults and blames to go around and across the Northern and Southern axis.

VISITOR UMAR, HAVE ever

VISITOR UMAR,

HAVE ever wondered why Sudan spilt into two? do some Research We can go our seperate ways without Bloodshed . NIGERIA is a geographical expression if it breaks up it will not be the 1st country to break up ..We are a different people with different values this is not about ISLAM OR CHRISTIANITY IT IS ABOUT CULTURE AND VALUES and outlook to life IF OUR CULTURE AND VALUES ARE DIFFERENT THEN WE ARE NOT THE SAME AND RELIGION CAN ONLY WIDEN THAT GULF. EDUCATION IS TOP PRIORITY IN THE SOUTH. IT has little meaning up north. Face your leaders ask them questions .They not the south are responsible for the backwardness in the north. In my village almost every family has a PhD HOLDER..... NOT SURE OF ANYWHERE IN THE FAR NORTH WHERE THIS IS TRUE...

RE - Anas

I am beginning to think that you may be a result of the pogrom and rape committed in the 60's against my people in the North. If yes, it is ok but stop robbing it in. Never again.

BOKO HARAM, Are you informing

BOKO HARAM,
Are you informing me that your days are numbered? Good riddance, nobody will miss you. To increase you reward yonder, you can strap the bomb on your chest and head to the palace of Sultan of Sokoto. Getting him will fetch you 10 extra virgins. Satan will parade the virgins and ask you to choose for yourself. If you like the pointy tits, or big boobs or both, that's your choice. I heard the Hausas love big clits, so that's meat for you, boy.

Unfortunately your senseless goat leaders are attracting those insults for you coupled with Mohammedanism. Mohammedanism is a violent superstitious cult. Sorry you dummies have to put up with such a lunatic doctrine which gives you no way out. So you have started you own hell here on earth.

Hmmmmmmm....I Confuse O

Northerner chop gworo read Koran e no get safiticate.
Southerner drink tombo read dictionary e get safiticate.
Dem say Northerner na mumu and him no fit blow big big grama sotay if him open him mouth nepa go take light.
Na so dem talk say Southerner get libry for inside him belle sotay when him mess na so ism de land and dat one sef go blow transformer.
Dat one no worry me. De one wey confuse me well well be as dokinta come be boy boy for mumu.
Wen una fight finish make una ansa me dat one o.......who wise and who mumu?

A Northern Foreboding!

Give Mohammed some credit. At least he recognizes how perilous the divide would be for the North. Just take a moment and imagine how the North would survive...what it's economy would look like with mind-blowing illiteracy rate, non-existent manufacturing industry base, no seaport and no natural resources.

While I anxiously await the entertainment value of Rudolf's response to this article, chances are that Rudolf will rise above it and decline to dignify the article with a response. If it does come, the response will probably reflect and be tempered by Rudolph's understanding that this article is Mohammed's expression of fear for the consequences of a successful Southern secession.

I HATE CHRISTIANITY BITTERLY

READING COMMENTS ON ANY NEWS ITEM, ARTICLE OR COMMENTARY ON THIS SITE MADE ME HATE CHRISTIANITY BITTERLY...CHRISTIANS ARE ANIMALS, COWARDS AND DEVILLISH...THEIR RELIGION PREACHES INSULTS, HATRED, DISDAIN, DISRESPECT, EXXAGERATION AND DISTORTION OF OTHER FAITHS IGNORANTLY... NO WONDER THEY ARE ALL ARMED ROBBERS, KIDNAPPERS, WHORES, TRAFFICKERS...DIRTY PIGS OF THE WORLD YOU ALL WILL BURN IN HELL!

Ibn Umar

Best of luck in your efforts but know that with people like Dan Iska (wayward rascal in Hausa)it is difficult. If Nigeria breaks, southerners will suffer most. Wallahi this is the fact. When Nigeria breaks, all most relocate to their regions, the north will then chart its course. Our civil service, markets, lands etc will be freed off. Our agricultural potentials, the vast solid mineral, oil and gas resources could then be developed for the benefit of honest and peace loving northerners. When Nigeria splits there will be no unemployment, prostitution, 419, armed-robbery, Bank share manipulation, importation of substandard goods etc. Northern masses crave for the split. Violence are by the Southerners bent on splitting the country assisted by the imperialists interested in northern oil and minerals. So Ibn Umar don't grieve over the happenings.

Ibn Umar

Best of luck in your efforts but know that with people like Dan Iska (wayward rascal in Hausa)it is. If Nigeria breaks, southerners will suffer most. Wallahi this is the fact. When Nigeria breaks, all most relocate to their regions, the north will then chart its course. Our civil service, markets, lands etc will be freed off. Our agricultural potentials, the vast solid mineral, oil and gas resources could then be developed for the benefit of honest and peace loving northerners. When Nigeria splits there will be no unemployment, prostitution, 419, armed-robbery, Bank share manipulation, importation of substandard goods etc. Northern masses crave for the split. Violence are by the Southerners bent on splitting the country assisted by the imperialists interested in northern oil and minerals. So Ibn Umar don't grieve over the happenings.

Ibn Umar

Best of luck in your efforts but know that with people like Dan Iska (wayward rascal in Hausa)it is. If Nigeria breaks, southerners will suffer most. Wallahi this is the fact. When Nigeria breaks, all most relocate to their regions, the north will then chart its course. Our civil service, markets, lands etc will be freed off. Our agricultural potentials, the vast solid mineral, oil and gas resources could then be developed for the benefit of honest and peace loving northerners. When Nigeria splits there will be no unemployment, prostitution, 419, armed-robbery, Bank share manipulation, importation of substandard goods etc. Northern masses crave for the split. Violence are by the Southerners bent on splitting the country assisted by the imperialists interested in northern oil and minerals. So Ibn Umar don't grieve over the happenings.

Please let the country divide

Please let the country divide and see who will suffer it and who will leave in peace? My fellow xtrian brothers did your religion of xtrianity not tell you to respect the religion of others? Question for all to answer. Who is/are the major problems of nigeria? 1- Our Traditional Rulers, 2- Our Religious Leaders, 3- The socalled godfathers/mafias, 4- Our Politicians, or 5- Our national Leaders. These are what we should be talking about not sentimental comments.Thanks

Our Common Problem

The issue with us as Nigerians is that we apportion blames. Our leaders remain the problem of this nation and they continue to feed us with all these nonsense in the name of Ethno-religious divide and sectionalism. Please tackle your leaders and Nigeria will be great again. Who created Boko Haram ? Hmmm, Answer me.

Otile, Rodulph dead Meat!

Make no mistake about this:your days are numbered!To other dumb southerners who keep insulting northeners surprises await you...we are not of words but action, watch the news closely.IDIOTS!

Ibn Umar: Are you against The US or Against Rudolf Okonkwo here?

Ibn Umar, which one you dey? You are attacking US police actions accross the world and at the same time attacking Rudolf Okonkwo for suggesting that Nigeria be split into manageable countries. Why? You ought to have dedicated another column for your attack against the US, and dedicate this piece to denounce Okonkwo's suggestion. Anyhow, Nigeria is not a natural country, incidences taking place in it suggests that the country be split into manageable countries. Is no use mouthing greatness in diversity. It has never worked and can never work in Nigeria. MOST PEOPLE in the north and MOST PEOPLE in the south of Nigeria have completely different value systems. With millions of people in a country having different value systems, and fairly distributed in two opposite geographic locations, the country can never be one.

@ Koboko Dem

THIS IS WHAT GOOD OLD FELA KUTI REFERRED TO AS 'Yeye Dey Smell'.
KOBOKO, I'M ANXIOUSLY AWAITING YOUR COMMENTS ON MUHAMMAD'S HOTCHPOTCH. MY EYES DON SEE FILM SHOW. ME I NO FIT TALK AGAIN O!!!.

Yoruba Thug Spoke II

Okonkwo speaks for himself alone!

The Yoruba thug has spoken as anonymous. He claims that the Igbos are the problem of Nigeria. He knows that the Yoruba are the ONLY problem destroying Nigeria, but he does not want to say it.

Yoruba and Obasanjo collected more money from Nigeria oil revenues than ALL the previous presidents of Nigeria combined. But Yoruba and Obasanjo produced more infrastructure decays, more ethnic divisions, more murders, more election riggings, more assassinations, more destructions in education and morality, more furies and noises, and more genocides and atrocities than ALL the previous Nigerian presidents combined. Facts and figures are in the public domain to prove this conclusively. Hence Yoruba fear Buhari, North, and others. Until the right time, Yoruba please continue to open your stinking mouths as if everyone else is as dumb as you are.

When I read comments from

When I read comments from people fron niger delta, I can't understand their shallow thinking. Yourubas are mostly muslim even if now, there are some who claim to be born again. We don't take kindly to your rude comments on our religion. Please know we are not with you ogogoro drunkards who are hellbent on displaying their stupidity. Break away if you want. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

WHAT A MYOPIC/DIABOLICAL REJOINDER

The writer of this article ended up making fool of the North the more, I could not figure anything out of this article order than the writer making fool of himself. He did not even address the Boko Haram issue, rather he used the alledged Abia University Gang rape to justify the calous waste of human lives by Boko Haram. shame on you myopic writer and your evil rejoinder. You Fulani feudalist always rose to defend Nigeria whenever anyone talks about the dissolution of the false union because of your greed for oil wealth. you alluded that Nigeria was artificial creation and ended up justifying it as permited by nature, No sir, Nigeria is merely existing on selfish and devilish terms of the Hausa/Fulani Muslims, it is not permited by nature nor God. It is an evil creation that must die in due time when the Southern Fools woke up to the reality of the fact that the lopsided and deceitful structure of Nigeria that makes corruption to thrive can no longer continue.

Yoruba Thug Spoke

The Yoruba thug has spoken as anonymous. He claims that the Igbos are the problem of Nigeria. He knows that the Yoruba are the ONLY problem destroying Nigeria, but he does not want to say it. The recent Ekiti election was massively rigged while the last election in Anambara was very smooth. Why? Because Yaradua – a Northerner was in charge. Had Obasanja been in charge, more than 5000 Igbos would have been massacred.
Who rigged elections in Ekiti – Igbos, Hausa, or Yoruba? Who murdered the attorney general of Nigeria, Bola Ige – Igbos, Hausa, or Yoruba? Who illegally impeached Ladoja in Oyo or Alam in Bayelsa State – Igbo, Hausa, or Yoruba? Who ruled Nigeria from 1999 to 2007 with nothing to show for it – Igbo, Hausa, or Yoruba?Who spent $30 billion on electricity between 1999 and 2007 – Igbo, Hausa or Yoruba? Who spent $500 billion on roads between 1999 and 2007 – Igbo, Hausa, or Yoruba?Who committed genocides in Odi and Zakibiam – Igbo, Hausa or Yoruba?

Stupid indeed!

The article has again demonstrated the attitude and mindset of an educated northern Muslim; arrogant and yet could not proffer a concise solution to the existing challenges that have been pointed out by Rudolph. Other blood thirsty Muhammedans on this forum are blaming the incessant and unprovoked killings of southerners to poverty and social negligence of the government. Please spare me this rubbish. And to those taking consolation that BH and their passive and active supporters are only killing Ibos, you definitely need some help, perhaps all the victims at the police and UN headquarters Abuja are ibos.
As far as you are not fully bearded and pious looking like us then you are not part of us and never will be. We will never stop our mayhem and infliction of fear according to the injunctions of our beloved prophet Muhammed (burning in hell) until the Koran and Sharia are recognised as the only constitution and law in Nigeria. In sha Allahu it won't be long.
Salam ma Lakum!!

Yoruba Thug Spoke

The Yoruba thug has spoken as anonymous. He claims that the Igbos are the problem of Nigeria. He knows that the Yoruba are the ONLY problem destroying Nigeria, but he does not want to say it. Recent Ekiti election was massively rigged while the last election in Anambara was very smooth. Why? Because Yaradua – a Northerner was in charge. Had Obasanja been in power as the C-in-C, more than 5000 Igbos would have been massacred.

He rigged elections in Ekiti – Igbos, Hausa, or Yoruba?
Who murdered the attorney general of Nigeria, Bola Ige – Igbos, Hausa, or Yoruba? Who illegally impeached Lodoja in Oyo or Alam in Bayelsa State – Igbo, Hausa, or Yoruba? Who ruled Nigeria from 1999 to 2007 with nothing to show for it – Igbo, Hausa, or Yoruba? Who spent $30 billion on electricity between 1999 and 2007 – Igbo, Hausa or Yoruba? Who spent $500 billion on roads between 1999 and 2007 – Igbo, Hausa, or Yoruba?
Who committed genocides in Odi and Zakibiam – Igbo, Hausa or Yoruba?

Why Are Igbos "Fair Game"?

@Damocles: You: If you want to leave, find a land that is outside of the territorial integrity of Nigeria".
How daft! The level of intelligence on display at SR is unbelievably low. "Nigeria" is a chess game played by opportunists if you must be taught. The clamour to keep it one is by those who can make profits of $500 million dollars without knowing what to do with it, not clowns like you who can't make a buck!

@Jakovic: You: "Ibos and Fulanis are one in spirit, thought and actions".
Ibos have never murdered non-believers of their faith.

@Anonymous: These crimes you've mentioned are obtainable in all parts of Nigeria. You're trying to beef-up racial tensions because the article in question was written by an Ibo, a man definitely superior to your "anonymous" self.

Ibos vs Nigeria is akin to Germany vs England. After WW11, Germans are more prosperous than the U.k. due to their hardwork and superior intelligence. God's gift is the Devil's envy!

@emeka

i hate to insult anybody so i will just advice you to stop your blasphemous posts. the fact that you insult the God and prophet of another religion explains how little the respect you accord your own god is.