The Punch Interview: "I Told The Inspector General Of Police In Advance That Abuja Would Be Bombed," Says Boko Haram Leader

Tishau
By Agency Reporter

Boko Haram Leader Speaks

What is Boko Haram about?


Our aim is to spread Islam all over Nigeria, that is our mission and I want people to understand that our correct name is Jama’atu Ahlis Sunna Lidda’awati wal-Jihad. Those calling our group Boko Haram do so to discredit the group and its ideas. It was formed at three fundamental levels.

The first level from which our group emerged was from people in this country who, for selfish reasons, recruited young people and sometimes children and sent them overseas for education. In reality, these people are totally ignorant of the reasons why these big men take them abroad. In the name of education, these young men are taken to mostly Arab countries and turned into militants who respect only those who sponsored them abroad. Those big men who sponsor these youths don’t have any conscience and no love for this country. 

It all started in 2004 when the Government of Mauritania fell.


It is similar to what is happening in Libya now, though slightly different. When the government in Mauritania fell in 2004, some individuals from that country came into Nigeria to recruit some youths as mercenaries to join forces with them to overthrow the government in power.


The second level of our membership is made up of young men who were recruited by our late leader, Mohammed Yusuf. Yusuf was approached by some people from Mauritania to recruit more Nigerians to continue with the struggle in Mauritania. The grounds were that these young people were being recruited to further their Islamic studies. They were to serve as a support group to the Mauritanian army. But our leader Mohammed Yusuf rejected the plan. But a number of Nigerian big men who were involved in the Mauritania struggle were angry with Yusuf. This led to a disagreement which pitched the young men loyal to Yusuf against those backing the big men. Yusuf, however, insisted on genuine Islam whereas those opposing him were mercenaries who were willing to serve their master’s interest in Mauritania.


At what point did they leave perfect Islam and become violent? 


Whatever I am telling you now I have already made available to the SSS when they arrested me. There was a misunderstanding within the group and this disagreement was between those who received military training in Mauritania and those who were loyal to Yusuf. The SSS infiltrated our ranks and began to arrest many of those who were militants. However, as they were arrested some big men moved in to ensure that the court released them and they came back causing more problems within our group.


In 2009 the disagreement developed into a crisis in areas where our group was spreading Islamic ideals. I was in charge of our operations in Bauchi, Gombe and Plateau. The crisis was more in Bauchi State, in two locations and in Kano in one location. In Bauchi, a group began to lay claim to a mosque that was built by our group. This caused a major crisis again and a young girl was kidnapped in Bauchi and taken to Borno State. Our group was fingered but we told one intelligence officer, Bala, who was investigating the case that her relations took her to Borno and if the issue was not handled well it could cause a crisis. The SSS directed us to contact the Commissioner of Police in Borno State to secure the girl’s release. We were still in the process when the Bauchi State governor directed that members of our group should be driven away from the state. That was how our people started to resist the forced evacuation and the crisis with the government spread to Borno State. In fact, the crisis began in Bauchi and not Borno.


Anytime there is a bombing in Nigeria Boko Haram claims responsibility, for example, four times in Borno Police headquarters and the UN office in Abuja.


Yes, we bombed some of those places you mentioned. Remember I told you that some of our members were recalled from military training in Mauritania. Among them were three specialist in bomb making.


When this crisis began I made a move to the authorities advising that the arrest of Boko Haram members would not bring an end to the crisis. I suggested that the government should stop the arrest and release those already arrested. Let me repeat it today, government should rebuild houses, mosques and schools demolished in Bauchi and Borno states. Government should not interfere in the genuine worship of our group and ensure justice for all. If these are not in place, I predict that the Nigerian situation may become like what is happening in Somalia.

I give this warning because many of those young men who went to Mauritania are being attracted back home because of the violent situation brought by the present crisis.


When I gave my advice, the police chased and arrested me, and kept me in detention. Before I was detained, I gave the police the video recordings of how some of our members were being given military training, but the IGP ordered that I should be detained. I was left in detention for 10 months. 


But those things that I warned about are playing out today. While I was in detention, I was in contact with our people and I still gave forewarnings to the authorities about attacks. I even told them beforehand whenever an operation was to take place. The bombing of the police headquarters had been planned and on many occasions I had always told them in advance.


In fact, Bala had helped the police because each time I got in touch with him he worked to avert the attacks. If not, the police headquarters would have been bombed before now. Three days before the attack I warned the police that there would be an attack in Abuja that would embarrass the security authorities. Also, after the bombing of the police headquarters, I was summoned before the IGP and given a GSM phone. I called the person who planned and led the attack and we spoke right in front of the IGP. So, all these terror attacks are caused by the negligence of government.


Since I was released from detention, I have rejoined my group and some of us have warned our members to stick to the original ideals of our leader, Yusuf. He did not tell us to kill innocent people or to break into and steal from banks. If there is a conflict between the faithful and the authorities our opposition should be against the authorities and not the talakawas.


There are allegations that Boko Haram is being sponsored by some top level politicians, is it true?


The truth is that politicians are the root cause of this Boko Haram problem. For instance, in Borno State, the governor sponsors a group of armed youths known as ECOMOG. It is this ECOMOG that the governor formed and looks after, above the police, SSS and other security agencies. In Gombe State, the governor has the Kalari. I was once contacted by a governorship candidate to kill an opponent for a fee. The security agencies know what I am telling you.


In Bauchi there is the Tarafuka, an armed group sponsored by the government, and the government watches on, even when we have the SSS and police. That is why our new leader, Mallam Abubakar Shekau, is calling on the youths to disregard all government in the country – a call that has brought him and the group into conflict with the government. Some politicians are now taking the advantage of the conflict between the Boko Haram leadership and the authorities to execute their own agenda.


Did Boko Haram bomb the United Nations Office in Abuja?


I would not answer the question of whether Boko Haram bombed the UN building or not for some reasons.


Did Boko Haram bomb the Police headquarters in Abuja?


Yes, we bombed the police headquarters in Abuja. I told you earlier that when the bombing of the Police headquarters happened I called the person who led the attack, I was in front of the IGP. Yes, we bombed the police headquarters in Abuja. They asked me why we bombed the police headquarters and I told him (IGP) in his presence that it was because of his statement in Maiduguri that the days of Boko Haram were numbered.


Why does Boko Haram bomb army barracks and attack police and security operatives? What do they do to affect Islam or the work of Boko Haram?


It is because of the indiscriminate killing of our members and innocent people by the police without trial. They arrest innocent people harass and shoot them and the authorities do nothing about it. Why should we then leave the police?


Boko Haram is asking for Sharia in all the Northern states, and the states have Sharia, so what is the problem again?


I have been waiting for this question. I was in detention when it was said that Boko Haram had threatened to turn the entire North of the country into a Sharia state. Since I came out of detention have you heard that Boko Haram is threatening to turn the whole of Nigeria into an Islamic nation? The truth is that those spreading such information are just lying against us. What we are demanding is that those states that have independently declared their states Sharia states should implement it to the letter. Have you seen Sharia cut the hand of someone who steals a cow head, while someone who corruptly enriches himself is left to go free? They have chased away local prostitutes and brought in international red light prostitutes to replace them. They have also banned local alcoholic drinks, yet they drink imported spirits in their respective government houses. Is that Sharia? They are insincere, so they must be effective in the implementation of Sharia. Sharia is being abused. I pity this country. Mauritania does not have any wealth they exported Boko Haram into Nigeria. Now, Libya has money and wealth but have collapsed. Who says that these countries would not bring something worse than Boko Haram into Nigeria?
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Re-Boko Haram leaders interview

This is a pure lie and nothing but a bonch of lies. There are some questions every rightful thinking individual should ask. (1)- WHO IS THIS MAN WHO CALLED HIMSELF THE LEADER OF THE SO-CALLED BOKO HARAM? (2)- IS IT NOT A DISGRACE TO THE AUTHORITIES HE MENTIONED? (3)- OR ARE THE AUTHORITIES PLAYING A ROLE IN ALL THESE CRIMES COMMITTED AGAINST HUMANITY? (4)- IS THIS A CALCULATED ATTEMPT TO DISCREDIT MUSLIMS AND ISLAM, AND TO GIVE THE IMPRESSIONS THAT MUSLIMS ARE CRIMINALS( AS CALLED BY THE OPPOSSITIONS)? (5) WHERE DOES THIS SO-CALLED INTERVIEW TOOK PLACE? ALL THESE QUESTIONS AND MANY MORE REQUIRES ANSWERS BEFORE ANYONE CAN CONLCUDE AND MAKE ANY COMMENT. SECURITY AGENCIES (WITH EMPHASIS ON THE IG)SHOULD BE ASHAMED. OR ARE THEY PART OF IT ALLLLLLLLLLLLL???????????

Nice 1

Ameen o Lanray. IG is busy making money from Nigeria predicament!

Umask the masked

This is nothing less than half baked bread. The authorities have established contact with Tishau severally. Why not take proactive measures and not Reactive. Boko Haram if they are truly sincere should help furnish Nigerians with the whole and not partial truth. Their circulars should mention the WHO-WHAT-WHAT-WHERE-WHEN-HOW-WHY. The sect have successfully drawn attention to themselves now they should help us with the right information needed to expose all evils.

THE INTRODUCTION OF SHARIA:THE BEGINING OF OUR PERIL.

The erstwhile government led by Olushegun Obasanjo is 100% responsible for the tragic-comedy unfolding today in Nigeria.There is no example of any country with one constitution and two unrelated legal systems,this legal schism is unreconcilable because the interpretation of the law in the islamic north and that in the south is heavily polarised,for instance sex with a 13YEAR OLD under any circumstance in the christian south is regarded as pedeophile while marriage to a 13YEAR OLD is normal in the islamic north,also beheadings, amputations and stoning to death is seen as barbaric in the south.The only solution to escape this legal predicament and its complementary consequences like islamic extremizm and terrorism is by further decentralisation and weakening of the center,a confederacy is the only way out, the blunder has been made by OBJ and things will never be the same again.

WEAK NAIJA INTELLIGENCE ACTION

Welldone SSS, for you infiltration so far and more needs to be done but i guess the governor who introduce sharia by now should be arrested and questioned, NPF naija major failure of all time after having firsthand genuine INTEL still did nothing showing that they could be co-sponsor of the group and the Bala of SSS which was mentioned in this interview should be called and let him assist naija weak intelligence with more INTELs since they respect him and he has averted many of their operations.

Fake Interview

Sahara Reporters you re known 4 incredulous stories.What manner of interview is this ?. This is pure junk journalism.Pity all the people who trusted u for information

brainless idiot.

the idiot said they are not boko haram, the people calling them are doing so to discredit them. he also said they bombed police hqts because IGP said boko haram days are numbered. the ig said boko haram and not that arabic sentence u called,so look 4 another reason.what about the churches u are bombing? u animal.what is dat IGP waiting for, he should resign now.

The SNC is the Answer!

If you must commit murder to make a point then, why not warn the innocent citizens that lost their lives in your madness ahead of time. Otherwise, he was quite clear on why they go after their specific targets. You must practice what you preach basically. Thou shall not destroy your neighbour's house and go home to yours to drink fine spirits. The interviewer failed to ask for his views on calling for a truce so the grievances could be discussed, the "way forward" in Naija parlance. How about sitting down to the singular topic of SNC and exchange views? Also, why did he not ask him for the names of the said politicians that sponsored these terror trips? They should confine their madness to those with whom they have problems, and not innocent Nigerians. Otherwise, every other thing he complained about has been said right here on SR!

Amazing; there is no govt in Nigeria !!!

I can't believe I am reading this interview. There is absolutely no govt in Nigeria. How can the police know well ahead their HQ will be bombed ?

The truth is that police, SSS and govt in Nigerian CANNOT guarantee their own safety talkless of the safety of the common Nigerian. They are still busy stealing billions. This Mallam Tishau should not be assassinated like Fugu, there is more revelations. SR please interview this guy directly and lets have names aside that of Ringim. There is a reason Jonathan, even though we know na mugu, could not act ;it is because there are powerful politicians within PDP connected with Boko Haram and we need those names exposed !!!

Bankole or Boko haram chief? ´am confused

Rubish!! this man in the photograph looks exactly like Bankole, since when has Bankole turned to Boko Haram?

Where is Deri and that illetrate Stanley Igwe to offer their usu

Hear the Boko Haram man "Three days before the attack I warned the police that there would be an attack in Abuja that would embarrass the security authorities. Also, after the bombing of the police headquarters, I was summoned before the IGP and given a GSM phone. I called the person who planned and led the attack and we spoke right in front of the IGP. So, all these terror attacks are caused by the negligence of government.
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The police and govt knew who Boko Haram are but yet their foot soldiers on this forum would have us believe it is Buhari, Sultan or Tinubu sponsoring Boko Haram. Why is that IGP still on sit today, please ask our ever slow and clueless President Jonathan.

credit to whom it is due

Denying AIT credit for the above story is unprofessional! AIT aired the interview with the Boko Haram fella yesterday, Tuesday, 20th Sept, 2011, at around 3pm. So which Puch interview is SaharaReporters referring to? That aside, Ringim has no moral and professional justification to continue as IG. People need to see the live interview to appreciate that what we have had all along is a confused clueless Police Force!

Uhm Andrew, your actual

Uhm Andrew, your actual problem is not Boko Haram fights and Sharia issues. You're like the woman who asked King Solomon to cut the baby in two just because she wanted a way to share the plight of having a dead child with the mother of the living child. Even if the muslims are granted independent Northern states, you WONT get biafra, or whatever it's called. So, relax.

terrible and unbelievable

If d story is true then 9ja has finished, how on earth will a terrorist stand in front of our inspector general of police n says they bomb police HQ or had a preknowledge of what to happen n yet nothing was done to avart it. We are in danger in dis country. We are being ruled by bounch of corrupt,ineptitudes criminals.may God help us.

These guys are wonderful

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Leader Indeed!

Boko Haram Leader Speaks? indeed!when we as a Nation elevate charlatans and near illiterates as leaders,promoted by those supposed to be in-charge of our security,the result will be self idolization.

wat a home movie

Sahara reporters how do u guys wake up in one day and just cook such foolish stories for who to believe wat sort of fools do u think we are some to come openly n tell the IG that he bombed the police HQ and the IG will give him a phone to make a call. This is so childish pls giv us real news not this fake story u are cookin

Incompetent IGP

Even if he had told the IGP that his (IGP's) house would be bombed, the IGP won't have been able to do anything. He's wholly incompetent!!!

Who Can Trust A Northerner For His Safety?

It reminds me of what happened to Aguiyi Ironsi in 1967, when Northern military officers who where his body guards where the ones;who gave information of his movement,where an when to arrest him,and finally lock in Southern body guards.On that faithful day,Ironsi could not believe that is trusted aides could betray him.
What is happening is very instructive, that GEJ must be very careful.I`ll not take the government effort to curb this menace until Ringin resigned,for his complicity.

SIMPLE REQUEST

There is no doubt that the Boko Haram is agitating for the sovereignty of the states in the North and I wonder what the Nigerian state is still waiting to grant them this SIMPLE REQUEST. For me, their actions are justifiable for as long as their madness remains in the north. Of course, America is 100% right in their prediction on the disintegration of Nigeria and it will not go beyond 2015 because the signs are too glaring. My prayer is that let the division be considered along ethnicity or regions and NOT NORTH and SOUTH, just like what happened in Sudan. LONG LIVE SOVEREIGN STATE OF BIAFRA. Andrew Ekeh

Relationship Muslim & Christians

For several years, many Christians had been killed by Muslims in the name of sharia, what would the monster looking fellow tell us was responsible if his group is the best? He should be treated as a criminal by charging him to court in order to answer all these atrocities ranging from arson, kidnapping to genocide.
there can not be any justifiable reason for BH ugly killing and now he is giving Nigerians a long Islamic sentence as their name thereby trying to dissociate himself from BH. He is a killer and as such he deserve to be treated as one.

idiot

He said boko haram is bombing and killing police and soldiers because they are killing innocent people. What about the thousands f innocent people this terror group has killed. Or are the churches bombed belong to the police and army. Is the UN building they bombed belong to the Nigeria police or army? Our government is weak if not this devil should b killed.

Juxtaposing the little that

Juxtaposing the little that was said by Alhaji Fugu,this all began when sharia was officially declared and established in Nigeria. In my humble opinion, to bring a lasting solution to this malaise, the intelligence community have to infiltrate this sect. All Nigerians that have traveled or applied to Mauritius and other affiliated embassies since 2003 should be placed on radar. This project is huge and it will really take time, but it will also provide employment for a lot of people. It's also not impossible to gather intelligence from Mauritius. If things are not properly and sensitively handled; BH has come to stay, I'm afraid. The good news is that it may not extend beyond the North for years to come.
I sensed this guy also refused to comment on UN bombing because it's obviously beyond him. The reason for doing that is outside their claimed objectives but it is also important to be done so as for a faction to remain in business.

Relationship Muslim & Christians

For several years, many Christians had been killed by Muslims in the name of sharia, what would the monster looking fellow tell us was responsible if his group is the best? He should be treated as a criminal by charging him to court in order to answer all these atrocities ranging from arson, kidnapping to genocide.
there can not be any justifiable reason for BH ugly killing and now he is giving Nigerians a long Islamic sentence as their name thereby trying to dissociate himself from BH. He is a killer and as such he deserve to be treated as one.

WHAT AN AUDACIOUS MAN?

''Yes, we bombed the police headquarters in Abuja. I told you earlier that when the bombing of the Police headquarters happened I called the person who led the attack, I was in front of the IGP. Yes, we bombed the police headquarters in Abuja. They asked me why we bombed the police headquarters and I told him (IGP) in his presence that it was because of his statement in Maiduguri that the days of Boko Haram were numbered.'' Where is this irritant? so he as been released after taking the life of so many.
With Ringin as IG there is no hope that we have heard the last of Boko Haram,after the UN House bombing.The IG should resigned for a better hand,who will not hobnob with enemies of the state.

strange!

If what this guy has said is true then Nigeria is the strangest country on earth.

Response

Boko Haram or whatever the group name is,is just looking for justifiable reasons for their atrocities. When you claim Sharia is not well implemented,then where do you put your teachings within your mosques? What is the business of a christian with your states not practicing sharia correctly? All I can say is you people are not in anyway prepared for what you are doing at all....some of us don't need to travel to Mauritius to make bombs so let's handle things with a lot of sense. If you want to split out of Nigeria, why not go your way and let's know those of us that are remaining.

Please wake me up when this dream is over.

Sahara Reporters, thank you very much. Malam Tishau, ina Nagode o. I hope I said it well. Thank you very much. So you were in front of the Inspector-General of Police Hafiz Ringim? And you told him, you bombed the police headquarters and you are not standing trial?
Erm, Erm (Coughing, bursting into singing). This is the day, this is the day that The Lord has made, that The Lord has made, I will rejoice, I will rejoice and be glad in it and be glad in it.....
My fellow brothers and sisters on Sahara Reporters. Pray for those of our brothers and sisters in Nigeria. If you are in Nigeria, your persistent prayer shall protect you.

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