Oyedepo, Oyakhilome, Ashimolowo, Others Come Under Attack At Humanist Forum in Abuja; Sheila Solarin Urges Nigerians To Fight for A Better Society

Bishop David Oyedepo
By SaharaReporters, New York

Stupendously wealthy Nigerian Pentecostal preachers and clerics have come under serious attack at the two-day national convention of the   Nigerian Humanist Movement (NHM), which ended Saturday afternoon in Abuja, Nigeria’s capital.

The forum brought together students, children, scholars, government officials, atheists, sceptics, rationalists, agnostics, freethinkers and professionals from different fields to discuss Humanism as the next step in Nigeria.

Declaring open the forum which marked the 15th anniversary of the birth of  the NHM, Leo Igwe, the administrative secretary of the Oyo State –NHM,  told  participants that many people  across  Nigeria and the world  were looking up to them. “Meetings like this should spread message of reason, science and free inquiry, and usher in an era  of positive  and progressive change, hope and light,” he charged.

Speakers and participants after one another slammed the various rulers of the Nigerian state, past and present, as well as citizens for allowing  a great  nation like Nigeria to tumble into a chaotic religious jungle with poverty, disease, ignorance, corruption and crime to rule.

In the first paper, “Invitation To Humanism? What’s On Offer ? Dr. Tunde  Arogundade,  a  UK-based  politician scientist and  humanist, revealed that he had obtained information about the forum on June 8, 2011 from SaharaReporters, which he declared to be his church. He advised all to always visit the online site, which he described as, an “authoritative, reliable news source.”
According to Dr. Arogundade, “Youths instead of going to church should befriend it. We need change that will bring good, peace for us all.”

Expressing shock that there were humanists in Nigeria, he said, “Evangelists  in Nigeria have developed  serious business acumen  that is the envy of many  non-spiritual  entrepreneurs. The trick of business diversification has not been lost to the likes of David Oyedepo, Chris Oyakhilome, Chris Okotie  and Mattew Ashimolowo etc.”

He noted that in combination, their  churches have cornered  a significant percentage of Nigeria’s Gross Domestic Product (GDP). “Super pastors own  a variety of businesses,” he stressed.  “The sheer opulence of some of the most successful churches has given rise to the calls that the churches be taxed  like a company, a money making enterprise.”

Steve O. Okecha, a  distinguished  Professor of Chemistry  at the office of the Minister of Education, Federal secretariat, Abuja, also presented a paper entitled, “ Science and Superstition in Nigeria; A Lop-Sided Partnership “

Okecha attributed the slow pace of development in the country largely to superstition and ignorance, arguing that Nigerians over the years have not lived up to scientific ideas.
The Delta State born scientist described superstition as a national cancer in Nigeria. In his view, “Most Nigerians of all age-grades and different levels of education  and exposure are superstitious.  You can have a  degree in any of the science subjects. That doesn’t make one a scientist. But one without any science degree can be scientific. A scientist must ask critical questions”.

Also at the forum, 86-year-old Sheila Solarin, widow  of Dr. Tai Solarin, the popular Nigerian civil rights campaigner, writer  and atheist, sent a strong  and well-written solidarity message to participants.

The unapologetic British atheist, who could not appear on account of health problems, challenged Nigerians to reject religion, stating that it has done more harm than good to Nigerians  and the nation.  He called upon young people, in particular, to pursue good knowledge, science and reason, to doubt, and to criticize.

Like Mrs Solarin, many people around the world also extended their solidarity to the NH  on its 15th birthday. They included Norman Allen, secretary of the Institute of Science and Human Values; Tanya Smith, President of Atheist Alliance International, a global network of atheists and free-thought groups and individuals committed to promoting atheism, secularism and related issues; Dr. Bill Cooke, Director of international programs of the Centre  for Inquiry; and John Dowdle Mafrsa, President  of Watford Area Humanists

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The Cowards Held HUMANIST FORUM IN ABUJA

The Cowards held Humanist Forum In Abuja to make fun of Oyedepo, Oyakhilome, Ashimolowo others. These cowards can only make fun of Christian Preachers. They are afriad to include muslims Imans. The richest iman in Nigeria are Iman Sanusi Lamindo, Dan Gote, Sultan of Sokoto and many others. These so called Humanists will never in their lives dare mention the Boko Haram and many other islamic preachers for fear of been attack.
The people that Oyedepo, Oyakhilome, Ashimolowo and others mentor are God fearing citizens of countries they all reside in. On the other hand the islamists under the Imans are recking havocs in the countries they reside. In the humanist forum some called themselves atheists. There is nothing like atheist. We all worship somethig. Some worship God, self, money, sex, gods=allah, There is no true atheist. Period.

I stopped reading this

I stopped reading this article when i read the word 'Atheist' Sahara reporters please dnt waste my time like this again,didnt know atheists still exixsted,brainless idiots.....mtschewww!

Miracle for sale

While I'm not an atheist, I don't believe in the way we run to churches for solutions to our myriad of problems. Some problems only require good thinking and discussion with a trusted fellow for solution to come. Yoruba ni pe: Ise ni ogun ise, again they said atele owo eni ki tan ni je! Let's watch the way we run to churches. A girlfriend of mine once exhibited madness and made one of these pastors richer when she went to donated N450,000.00 all in the name of giving thanks when she does not earn more than a million annually. I now asked her a question what if you are sacked, will church give you another job? She didnt get the job through church connection in the first place o!

Science is a necessary deception

Science is a necessary deception used to enslave the modern man. It appeals to the human mind because it it clothed in logic and presented with reason but it's based on lies and deception. Although it is difficult for the average mind to swallow yet it is the truth. At best science would equate to a logical exercise! Things workout not because they follow a scientific pattern but because they do naturally. Science only brings a logical explanation to what works.

The Humanists are free to express themselves and have made very valid observations of the Nigerian society, however their conclusions are extreme and hasty. I know and believe that God made all men and I believe the biblical account of events just as these men believe their ideology but behind evil is Satan and the destiny of all creation lies with God .

When Jesus return in glory things would be clearer to men

re: Anonymous

It is a shame that people who can not identity or do not have the courage to identify themselves are allowed to talk among reasonable men. Fugitives like you who ran away from your home country wondering away in foreign land and whose only acquisition is foul language-calling God created beings ‘brainless’. Please identify yourself, what do you do, what have you invented that makes you a genius and the audacity to insult people? If you are investigated, all will realise that you are in a much pathetic situation than the people you insult. SR allows you the luxury of anonymity in which chicken-hearted people like you hide under to showcase the amplitude of the lack of home training of your likes.

shut up, look at reality

shut up, look at reality before u form your biased ill informed opinions

FOOL

@stupid atheist n humanist only a fool ll
Say ders no God.get a life,dats my advice

AAI

The most stupid people on earth are the ATHEIST. Just because someone does not see his brain, can he now say he (himself) does not have brain. No birikila no house, no God no universe.

FOOL

@stupid atheist n humanist only a fool ll
Say ders no God.get a life,dats my advice

discountenance

pls look beyond the theatrics and gullible comments before jumping into the discussions. Humanist believe there is no God and religion comes from the failure of man to understand nature. Have they been able to provide solutions to the myraid of problems in thier own lives talk more the world through thier study of nature? What do they have to offer which is better than the beliefs they criticise? Why are thier attacks always against christians? Are there no leaders in other religious sects that are rich? Why are they seeking to grow thier membership or followers? Are thier activities not funded by thier followers? If they get large followership and thier revenue base increases will they not do worse? Come off it. These are are only comparable to most nigerian human right activist or cash and carry journalist. Dont ask me of Keyamo and his juicy EFCC litigations that has stopped the noise or the likes of Nduka Obagbena and Abati now spokesman for the things he criticised the most.

JUDGE NO ONE

My friends, i have read all your write up, i should say that we should not judge, because Bible let us to understand that.There is nothing hiden under the sun, GOD knowsn us all.A day will come that we will give every account of our life on earth to our God almighty.

Super Evangelist/Pastors: How much do they pay in taxes?

How much in taxes do these super evangelists/pastors who own super businesses and super jets pay? Are these mega churches still considered nonprifit (NGOs)?

REPENT AND GIVE YOUR LIVES TO

REPENT AND GIVE YOUR LIVES TO CHRIST, IT IS APPOINTED UNTO MEN ONCE TO DIE AND AFTER THAT JUDGEMENT. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOU THINK OR SAY, IT DOES CHANGE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE BEEN CREATED IN THE IMAGE OF GOD BUT THE SINFUL NATURE IS SEPARATING FROM GOD. BE RECONCILED UNTO GOD, WE ARE IN THE ENDTIME , JESUS IS COMING SOON. BE BORN AGAIN.

thank you jare, tell him

thank you jare, tell him

Even Jesus was critized, so

Even Jesus was critized, so am not surprised. One thing to know is that these men of God have affected so many lives by the word of God. Do you know how many people whose lives have been transformed and made better by the ministry of these men? What do you want? For them to go in rags to prove a point? Most of them are blessed by members whose lives have been affected. You people should face politicians who are milking our treasure dry and leave God's servants.

Eduacted FOOLS

As a matter of fact, the bible has said it all, my people perish because of lack of knowledge. what do you expect to be discussed in the meeting of the atheists, free thinkers who are ready to promote secularism. the gathering of FOOLS cant produce any WISE talk. those that will tell you that "do what thou will is the whole of the law"(illuminism). the only person i pity in that gathering is the 86 years old sheila solarin who is atheist, if she dies, only God knows. pls Tai solarin, if you are looking down to what is going on on earth, pls send ur wife news of what obtains in the world over there

So, Finally, Britain has introduced Atheism to Nigeria

So, Finally, atheism has come to Nigeria..In Britain, almost everyone is an atheist now unlike America..People no longer pray here in britain and they beleiev Jesus was just a story. May God help us now

Let it be done in Earth as in Heaven

Thank you...

don't be misled by highfalutin philosophies...

Continued:
A principle that cannot be broken: Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people. Corruption is in the spirit of man, humanism only enlightens the mind but the spirit, the force of life, will still be reprobate without a transformation from God - the Father of Spirits through Jesus Christ the Lord!

don't be misled by highfalutin philosophies...

Continued:
A principle that cannot be broken: Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people. Corruption is in the spirit of man, humanism only enlightens the mind but the spirit, the force of life, will still be reprobate without a transformation from God - the Father of Spirits through Jesus Christ the Lord!

Do not be Misled by highfalutin philosophy...

What these 'thinkers' fail to tell us is that most of these western civilizations were built on the Bible, most of their scientists & inventors were christians - Isaac Newton, Christopher Columbus (who discovered America), Wright Brothers (created the airplane), Galileo Galiliei, Michael Faraday, the ketchup man too- Henry Heinz was a bible believing Christian, to mention a few.
Another thing they fail to tell us about these western civilizations is that as they increasingly turn away from God and embrace secular humanism, their society is undergoing decadence...monstrous incurable diseases, unimaginable 'natural' catastrophes, gangsterism, drive-by shootings, homosexuality, paedophilia, patricides, suicides, homicides, divorces, occultism, etc. So you have beautiful buildings, roads, hospitals, structures that are run by 'lost & confused' men. Contd...

Religion is not the problem!

I am actaually gutted to see these humanists speaking like religion is what has kept Nigeria where it is. It's not. Allow people practice whatever religion they deem fit. Remember that it is even Christianity that brought education (missionary schools) and civilisation in general to most parts of Africa. Even atheists have benefitted from this. So please stop offending our sensibilities here. We have fanatical faith followers and a number of questionable religious leaders, but tell me which area of life is devoid of questionable people. I can boldly say atheism is not the way forward either. It all has to do with a personal choice to be good and progressive.

When you read many of the

When you read many of the comments, you will gather that many of the people are not proficient in english. How can someone, who is not fluent and articulate in the english language, really understand a book that has been translated into english, from hebrew and then delivered to them by a barely literate 'pastor'? And, excuse me, anyone who, simply has a degree from a Nigerian university, is barely literate. Nigerian universities in world ranking are amongst the worst. That is why they churn out a bunch of non thinking people and retarded followers.

May be I need to bring it to

May be I need to bring it to your awareness that some of the men of God that we have being criticizing for their perceived luxury lifestyles make very good money from the spiritual books and tapes they author being former lecturers. They even support the church with incomes from their writing skills which I have benefited from. Besides, they receive a lot of gifts. I know that some of these pastors give out. They will not come out to announce to the whole world like the Pharisees or hypocrits since they un

@paul. You are a thief, you must be one them robbing the poor.

All you 419 pastors you will go to hell fire and your children will suffer in the future, its only a matter of time the corse and rot of God will come on all of you.

@savemesaviour.Who is stupid?you or Dr Arogundade? Its you.

Some of you are so dumb that even when people are talking sense into your generator fume brains, you can't seat back and reason before shooting the messenger, what a country,you lot are so brainwashed that's why you cannot see the truth,what a dumb ass ignorant motha fukers you lot are when it comes to religion or politics, that's why i hate you people, the churches most of you goes to that have universities, you cannot even afford to send your own kids to them even dough you are a member of the church, foolish people. You forget that religion is common sense, you hate thet truth.

WHO IS DECEIVING YOU

WE ARE HEAR AND READ ALL THESE ABOUT SOME MEN OF GOD. BUT WHEN YOU ARE INVITED TO A PLACE WHERE YOU WILL HEAR THE UNDILUTED WORD OF GOD (LIKE-DEEPER LIFE CHURCH)FROM UNCOMPROMISING MINISTER YOU DECLINED AND SAY THEIR OWN TOO MUCH. WE WANT SOFT AND SOOTHING MESSAGES OF PROSPERITY, HEALING DELIVERANCES ETC BUT NOT HOLINESS AND RIGHTEOUS LIVING. IT IS TIME TO TURN TO THE LORD

re-attack on Bishop David Oyedepo and other men of God

Mr Arogundade, thanks for your submission on this matter. in fact you are sincerely wrong by saying that Bishop David Oyedepo and other men of God have not contributing their quotas to the survival of this country.However,note this next time you need to do researches before you present your brief to a civilised society like ours.When you talk like this in your village which you have abandoned for years the fools among them will clap for you thinking you are encouraging them not knowing that you are expressly leading them to eternal destruction.remember it is a fearful things to fall into the hand of Almighty God.You are forgiven but go and sin no more.

They are all 419 pastors, they will be punished by God,

I blame the ignorant nigerian public that falls for these thieves that call themselves pastors, ask them all how many charities do they do in a year? they only preach prosperity, they don't give a shit as long as you bring them ten percent of your earnings, where and how you get it does not matter. Go to catholic church in europe no thites is asked, go to church of england no thites is asked, go to proper oyinbo churches no tax is asked, go to black african and their 419 crew all you hear is thites and malachi and sow bountyful so that you can reap bountyful, african people are too stupid, this is the moment the bible is talking about that many will come in my name but they are not of me, you shall know them by their ways, our people are so dumb even dough they could see that this 419 pastors are only after money they still fall all the time for their lies.

STUPID MAN

DR AROGUNDADE U ARE A VERY VERY VERY VERY STUPID FOOL. GET OUT!!!!