Exclusive Audio: Taped Pre-Interview With Babakura Alhaji Fugu By SaharaReporters Just Before His Assassination

On Saturday September 17th 2011 SaharaReporters conducted a pre-interview telephone conversation with the late Babakura Alhaji Fugu, who had agreed to call-in live on SaharaTV at 2:30 PM (Nigerian time). During the pre-interview (5 minute interview that commenced at 1:26 PM) the late Babakura Alhaji Fugu began revealing the genesis of Boko Haram when Obasanjo was president. This would be SaharaReporters second call to him on that day.

“The antecedent is a very long story because it dates back during the Shari’a implementation that runs across the Northern Nigeria during Obasanjo regime, when most Northern Nigeria have started yearning for Shari’a law. Our own state is not exceptional,” late Fugu had started saying before our producers asked that he send his photo by email for the show.

As the telephone conversation was ending we heard what appeared to be a gunshot in the background, while we could not confirm this, it tallies with the stated timing of Fugu's assassination (1:30PM Nigerian time).

During our third and fourth attempts to reach Fugu, his phone was answered by a strange voice that spoke in Yoruba and Hausa langauges. During this time SaharaReporters sent out a facebook and twitter message to our viewers saying we believed the Nigerian government was interfering with our calls to Fugu, as it appeard our calls to him were being diverted and eventually his telephone service was turned off by the service provider. It is possible that his killers were answering his phone after they shot him.

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Thank U SR

Thank you SR for bringing to us the salients aspects of Muslim and Christian doctrines that believers like me are unaware of. From the discourse, I can attest to a uniformity in the common belief of the sanctity of both religions in the existence of Almighty God. It is my candid opinion that the present impasse between both religions is the handiwork of scaremongers who are disillusioned and frustrated with sinister primordial motives and earth based cultural deficiencies. One day the truth will be professed and those deviants will perish in perpetual agony. Thank you,

IBRAHIM SAAD

According to the exegesis of Qur'an regarding the torment Isa (A.S.) experienced in the hands of his enemies, he (Isa) did not died on the cross. The arguement that supports Isa's (A.S.) death on the cross originated in Christianity.

Please, seek for further explanation from Islamic clerics (Ahl-s-Sunnah) on whether Isa (A.S.) died on the cross or not. May God continue to guide us to the straight path, amin.

KENNETH AND DANMUSULMAI

I AM IMPRESSED. THAT IS ALL I CAN SAY AFTER READING YOUR EXCHANGES. THIS IS WHAT WE LACK THAT IS WHY WE KILL EACH OTHER FOR NOTHING. BECAUSE COME TO THINK OF IT BOTH PROPHET MUHAMMAD AND JESUS CHRIST LEFT THIS EARTH UNABLE TO CONVERT EVERYONE. INFACT CHRIST DIED IN THE HANDS OF HIS OPPONENTS AND OUR PROPHET (ISLAM) WAS SAID TO HAVE DIED AS A RESULT POISONING EARLIER IN THIS MINISTRY BY HIS OPPONENTS. I WILL STILL INSIST HOWEVER THAT KENNETH FOLLOW THIS LINK AND WATCH THE VIDEO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkGwzvl62Ek

TO; DAN MUSULMAI 11

That only Matthew mentions being baptized in the name of the Trinity does not make it unimportant. The five daily prayer is not in the Koran yet it is one of the pillars of Islam. Two people hardly report on the same thing in exactly the same way except it is dictated to them. The Holy Bible records where God used the plural 'US' in Genesis 1:26 and 11:7.An Islamic scholar Dr. Ahmed Abd El Mo'ty Hegazy wrote in El Ahram ,Cairo, Egypt on 19th June, 2002 "Christianity,is a monotheistic religion and trinity in it does not mean a plurality of Gods; but rather points to the different aspects of the same truth (existence, knowledge and life). Muslims believe in one God who has many attributes". On Jesus being the Son of God, Prof. Mohammad Shaqaneery, professor of Islamic Studies at the Paris University wrote in El Ahram of 26th May, 1985, "We know that the Quran says that Jesus is the Word and Spirit of God". I still maintain that the word and spirit of man are integral parts of man.

TO: DAN MUSULMAI 10

If your submission is correct on this, then why did Mohammad not do the same in the Koran and in the hadiths? I have not come across where he used the plural to refer to himself. Example sura Lvi( The Sand Dunes):85 he said "I am not an--,and I know not--I only follow--I am only a warner--'. Lets assume but without conceding, that your position on Allah speaking to man while using the plural forms is correct. There is a logical explanation for this. The angels did not fall but man did. So the angels do not need a Saviour who is God (the Son) in his redeeming role. Similarly, the angels do not need a Comforter to dwell with and teach them because they are always in the presence of God. Man needs the Comforter, who is the Holy Spirit, to teach and keep him away from the snares of Satan.
You dispute the trinity based on what some writers have said, particularly that only Matthew mentions it.The command to go and baptize is in Mark.

TO: DAN MUSULMAI 9

you ask me to explain how the Son came out of the Father as in John 8:4. In sura Lxvi( The Forbidding):10 it says "And Mary, Imran's daughter---We breathed into her Our Spirit and she confirmed the Word of her Lord". See sura xxi:85 also. When you speak, your word leaves or comes out of or exits you. Similarly, when you breath out, your breathe leaves, exits or comes out of you. So when Allah, according to this sura, breathed out his breathe entered Mary as the Word and Spirit. John says in CHAPTER 1:14 "And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us--".
I find your attempt to defend Allah's use of the plural pronouns in expressing himself not convincing. You call this the nature of the Arabic language and also that Allah used those while addressing only humans. One does not need to be a language expert before knowing that anything one is in the singular and if it is more than one, then they are in the plurals.Arabic cannot be different from other languages in this regard.

@ KENETH regarding Aisha

mr keneth how did jesus come from the father? we all agreed it is via Words or he blow his spirit in mary and she conceive and the same to ADAM so if i will be a christian it will be injustice not to call Adam a God because it is the same way God created them.and regarding Aisha (R.A) yes what she said was correct because prophet comfirm it he said He said, " He is veiled by Light, how could I see Him."(Narrated by Muslim, al-Eeman, 261).

@ KENETH surat mary 4

34. Such is 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary). (it is) a statement of truth, about which they doubt (or dispute).

35. It befits not (the Majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glorified (and Exalted be He above all that they associate with Him). When He decrees a thing, He only says to it, "Be!" and it is.
i told you ruh stand for diffrent meaning and in the above verses it stands for gabriel(the angel)

Qur'an defines "word" Allah says in the Qur'an(al-imran 3:59)
Verily, the likeness of 'Iesa (Jesus) before Allah is the likeness of Adam. He created him(Adam) from dust, then (He) said to him: "Be!" - and he was.

the Word here means "Be!" jesus was also said by Allah Be! and he was, we can see it in (mary 19:35

@ KENETH surat mary 3

28. "O sister (i.e. the like) of Harun (Aaron) [not the brother of Musa (Moses), but he was another pious man at the time of Maryam (Mary)]! Your father was not a man who used to commit adultery, nor your mother was an unchaste woman."

29. Then she pointed to him. They said: "How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?"

30. "He ['Iesa (Jesus)] said: Verily! I am a slave of Allah, He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet;"

31. "And He has made me blessed wheresoever I be, and has enjoined on me Salat (prayer), and Zakat, as long as I live."

32. "And dutiful to my mother, and made me not arrogant, unblest.

33. "And Salam (peace) be upon me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive!"

34. Such is 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary). (it is) a statement of truth, about which they doubt (or dispute).

@ KENETH surat mary 2

22. So she conceived him, and she withdrew with him to a far place (i.e. Bethlehem valley about 4-6 miles from Jerusalem).

23. And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a date-palm. She said: "Would that I had died before this, and had been forgotten and out of sight!"

24. Then [the babe 'Iesa (Jesus) or Jibrael (Gabriel)] cried unto her from below her, saying: "Grieve not! Your Lord has provided a water stream under you;

25. "And shake the trunk of date-palm towards you, it will let fall fresh ripe-dates upon you."

26. "So eat and drink and be glad, and if you see any human being, say: 'Verily! I have vowed a fast unto the Most Beneficent (Allah) so I shall not speak to any human being this day.'"

27. Then she brought him (the baby) to her people, carrying him. They said: "O Mary! Indeed you have brought a thing Fariya (an unheard mighty thing).

@ KENETH surat mary 1

16. And mention in the Book (the Qur'an, O Muhammad , the story of) Maryam (Mary), when she withdrew in seclusion from her family to a place facing east.

17. She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent to her Our Ruh [angel Jibrael (Gabriel)], and he appeared before her in the form of a man in all respects.

18. She said: "Verily! I seek refuge with the Most Beneficent (Allah) from you, if you do fear Allah."

19. (The angel) said: "I am only a Messenger from your Lord, (to announce) to you the gift of a righteous son."

20. She said: "How can I have a son, when no man has touched me, nor am I unchaste?"

21. He said: "So (it will be), your Lord said: 'That is easy for Me (Allah): And (We wish) to appoint him as a sign to mankind and a mercy from Us (Allah), and it is a matter (already) decreed, (by Allah).' "

@ KENETH 7 cont

so they ask him about the knowlendge of (soul) of course no one knows it.except Allah because we do not know whay is happening after death and in the womb nd when we are sleeping "Dreamings" we do not know anything unless what Allah give us. that is the meaning of the verse according to islamic scholars. for more information cheak "KITAB AR-RUH" THE BOOK OF SOUL by ibnul Qayyim.

@ KENETH 7

concerning spirit
Allah said “They ask you [O Muhammad (sallallahu alaihe wa-sallam)] concerning the Ruh (Soul). Say: 'It is one of the things, the knowledge of which is only with my Lord. And of knowledge, you (mankind) have been given very little.” [Soorah Al-Israa (17) :85]
first the quatoners are jews not christians so they came to prophet and ask him such quation and test him weather he can answer but he keep silent untill Allah revealed him through angel.

when we say "ruh" in Arabic it stand for diffrent meaning
1)soul
2)Angel(gabriel specifically)
3)spirit

@ KENETH 6

3)Allah use it since before birth of jesus like in statement "we sent moses..." noah,david,abraham,and many prophet so if it means trinity Allah has use it before even mary was born.
4) Allah only uses those kind of adressing when their is intermidiate between him and prophet but when he is speaking to angels directly he uses the pronoun 'I'(2:30)
5)after all if you still insist those verses means trinity then Allah said.
And your god is One God, there is none who has the right to be worshipped but He, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful” [al-Baqarah 2:163]
Say: He is Allaah, the One” [al-Ikhlaas 112:1]

mr.keneth this i think are enough for you to clear your self about trinity in the qur'an.

@ KENETH 5

it is facinating that you have bring where Allah refer to himself as Plural yes of course he did no deny on that but that does not mean trinity believe me.reasons
1.literary in Arabic someone may refer to him self with pronoun nahnu (we) exaltation many verses in the qur'an Allah refer himself as (we) for glorification so that to bring it close to the understanding of human it is also called in english literature “The Royal We” the statement mostly used by someone with a great power that is why Allah make it to bring it close to the understanding humans.
2) paroah or "fir'aun" also made it,he was a king that is why he made such statement you can see it in (7:127)

@ KENETH 4

4)Hebrew manuscript of the Gospel of Matthew which was originally written in Hebrew the text is not present Dr G. Reckart, Professor of Theology at the Apostolic Theological Bible College of Kaufman, Texas, said that this text that define trinity has been added to the Gospel of Matthew. He said: “The Catholic Church has willingly lied about Matthew 28:19 and the Catholics in general (including the Eastern Orthodox) have lied to the world. Everyone who was baptized with this false baptism has died lost and without salvation.”
Mr. keneth you should follow all my refrences and review what it is said in about that chapter in the bible.their is original hebrew text translated to english online you can also cheack for that.

@ KENETH 3

3)Archbishop Cyril Salim Bustros,the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Baalbek and environs said:"The Bible scholars think it most likely that this injunction which the Gospel says was spoken by Jesus did not come from Jesus himself; rather it was the formula spoken to prepare people for Baptism in Greek society. Baptism in the early years of Christianity was given ‘in the name of Jesus Christ’ [Acts 2:38; 10:48] or ‘in the name of the Lord Jesus’ [Acts 8:16; 19:5]. Hence historians regard it as more likely that the Trinitarian baptismal formula was a brief summary for preparing for baptism. Thus they went further and included with the name of Jesus ‘God the Father and the Holy Spirit’.”

@ KENETH 2

2)Adolf Harnack says in his book The History of Dogma says:“This concept of trinity which speaks of the “Father, Son and Holy Spirit” is something strange that was never uttered on Christ’s lips. It did not exist at the time of the Apostles. … Moreover, it was never mentioned until a later stage in the development of Christian teachings and Christ never spoke of it when he was preaching and teaching after he rose from the dead. Paul knew nothing of that either, because he did not quote anything that he attributed to Christ that urged spreading Christianity among other nations.”

@ KENETH 1

Mr.keneth i first of all appriciate what you all write and i truely believe with some of your citations.
with regard to the trinity jesus has never said it i think you will believe me.many christian scholar did repute the idea of trinity.the chapter that explain trinity is in the bible is Matthew 28:16-20 which you cited to me previously.
Dr. Munqidh al-Saqqaar (non muslim) said:

it is mention in all the three gospels that jesus eneter jerusalem riding a donkey but only metthew mentioning the trinity.if there is a trinity it will be mention in all the gospels because trinity is better than riding a donkey

TO: DAN MUSLUMAI 8

The statement in Leviticus is repeated in Mark 2:28 where Jesus is described as the Lord of the sabbath. The position of Jesus is quite different from that of Adam who He created. Jesus said "I proceeded from the father". This means I came out or exited the Father. Adam did not. John the Baptist, acknowledged in Islam as the forerunner to the Word, was assigned this responsibility through his father by the angel in Luke 1:76 "...For thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare His ways". Soon after John came Jesus and John confirmed that Jesus was the holy one written about by the earlier prophets. So Jesus is much more than a mighty messenger or prophet. He is not only the Son of God but HE IS GOD WITH MAN.
NOTE PLEASE: IF I DO NOT RESPOND TO YOUR POSTS IN TIME, DO NOT BE ANXIOUS BECAUSE I WILL UNFAILINGLY DO SO EVENTUALLY.

TO: DAN MUSLUMAI 8

The statement in Leviticus is repeated in Mark 2:28 where Jesus is described as the Lord of the sabbath. The position of Jesus is quite different from that of Adam who He created. Jesus said "I proceeded from the father". This means I came out or exited the Father. Adam did not. John the Baptist, acknowledged in Islam as the forerunner to the Word, was assigned this responsibility through his father by the angel in Luke 1:76 "...For thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare His ways". Soon after John came Jesus and John confirmed that Jesus was the holy one written about by the earlier prophets. So Jesus is much more than a mighty messenger or prophet. He is not only the Son of God but HE IS GOD WITH MAN.
NOTE PLEASE: IF I DO NOT RESPOND TO YOUR POSTS IN TIME, DO NOT BE ANXIOUS BECAUSE I WILL UNFAILINGLY DO SO EVENTUALLY.

TO: DAN MUSLUMAI 7

In those Psalms David wrote that only God can still the rolling waves. Jesus did so. Nobody did that before or has done so after Him. The Psalms are confirms as Allah's revelation in the Koran. In deed he is much more than what you have acknowledged. The Koran claimed that all the Prophets prior to Mohammad had been sent by Allah (Sura 111:75,180;Sura iv:160 etc). Here is one what one of them, Isaiah, said about Jesus in chapter 9:6 over seven hundred years before His birth " For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given and His name shall be ... The mighty God, The everlasting father, The prince of peace". Mathew says in chapter 1:23 "Behold a virgin shall bring forth a son and they shall call His name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US". He was quoting an earlier prophecy by the same Prophet Isaiah(7:14) which was given long before the holy birth. Leviticus 23:3 says that God alone is the Lord of the sabbath. So does the Koran in Sura 4:160.

TO: DAN MUSLUMAI

The first pillar of Islam is the declaration of faith which ends by saying that Mohamed was Allah prophet. The Ahmadiyyahs challenge this and say that their founder Gulam Ahmad was. And they would have been right if Gulam Ahmad had been an Arabic speaker. Sura 26:190 says that Mohamad was given the revelation that "thou mayest be one of the warners, in clear Arabic tongue". The Koran was sent in Arabic and is to remain in Arabic only. In fact one of the greatest skeptics of Islam was Aisha, Mohamad child bride and favourite wife. To the claim by her husband that he saw Allah and discussed with him in the seven heaven, Aisha said that who ever claimed that Mohammad had physically seen Allah was a liar because Allah said that no body can see him. She did not exclude the husband from the liars. In Islam Mohammad words can not be countered. That will be blasphemy. Back to Jesus, His being God is also confirmed in Psalms 65:7,89:9,107:28-30.

TO: DAN MUSLUMAI

The first pillar of Islam is the declaration of faith which ends by saying that Mohamed was Allah prophet. The Ahmadiyyahs challenge this and say that their founder Gulam Ahmad was. And they would have been right if Gulam Ahmad had been an Arabic speaker. Sura 26:190 says that Mohamad was given the revelation that "thou mayest be one of the warners, in clear Arabic tongue". The Koran was sent in Arabic and is to remain in Arabic only. In fact one of the greatest skeptics of Islam was Aisha, Mohamad child bride and favourite wife. To the claim by her husband that he saw Allah and discussed with him in the seven heaven, Aisha said that who ever claimed that Mohammad had physically seen Allah was a liar because Allah said that no body can see him. She did not exclude the husband from the liars. In Islam Mohammad words can not be countered. That will be blasphemy. Back to Jesus, His being God is also confirmed in Psalms 65:7,89:9,107:28-30.

TO: DAN MUSULMAI 5

By refusing to bow down to Adam as was ordered by ALLAH, was Iblis not tempting Allah to see what he could do? What stopped Iblis from tempting God when He was in human form? Disobedience is trying one's patience and that is temptation. You argued that spoken words are more compelling than actions. The Islamic traditions of praying five times a day and circumcision are not in the Koran but have evolved as traditions. Actions when approved carry equal weight as statements and one in whose presence an act was done is es topped from denying it later. An act of war is the same as the declaration of war. Both lead to hostilities. Concerning doubts about Jesus' virgin birth by some Christians, such skeptics exist in every religion. But their doubts do not change anything. Late President Habib Bourguiba of Tunisia doubted the authenticity of the Koran. A death Fatwah was placed on him.

TO: DAN MUSLMI 4

The Koran does not define "Word". So we resort to John 1:1 where it was first used and see it as "..the Word was God". Though He created everything but in human form He could be tempted. You agree that He is the Messiah. He could not be that without dying. In God form He could not die but as man He had to die to accomplish His redemptive role. If you find that hard to believe, how do you explain Muslims believing that Allah hurls the stars at Satan to keep him away from eavesdropping on the heavenly council. Allah could just have said "stop" and satan would stop. Allah is the creator and only God. Why does he bear witness which is an act of testifying to a third person? Who is that person and on whose behalf does Allah testify? Does Allah need to testify? See Suras 3:18 and 63:1. Allah created all and owns all. Why does he begrudge man his creation? In Bukhari 9:93:532 Allah will be the last intercessor. Interceding between who and who? Continued.

TO: DAN MUSLMI 4

The Koran does not define "Word". So we resort to John 1:1 where it was first used and see it as "..the Word was God". Though He created everything but in human form He could be tempted. You agree that He is the Messiah. He could not be that without dying. In God form He could not die but as man He had to die to accomplish His redemptive role. If you find that hard to believe, how do you explain Muslims believing that Allah hurls the stars at Satan to keep him away from eavesdropping on the heavenly council. Allah could just have said "stop" and satan would stop. Allah is the creator and only God. Why does he bear witness which is an act of testifying to a third person? Who is that person and on whose behalf does Allah testify? Does Allah need to testify? See Suras 3:18 and 63:1. Allah created all and owns all. Why does he begrudge man his creation? In Bukhari 9:93:532 Allah will be the last intercessor. Interceding between who and who? Continued.

TO: DAN MUSLMI 3

He rightly allowed others to judge the content of His character. Even Pilate said He found no fault in Him(Luke 23:4). The Centurion said He was a righteous man in Luke 23:47. Using being good to determine whether Jesus is God, He challenged the Jews to indict Him on any sin. They could not. In Mark 7:37 it says "And were beyond measure astonished, saying HE HATH DONE ALL THINGS WELL....." Only God is without fault. In Sura 19:15 "We sent unto her Our Spirit that presented himself to her a man without fault and We may appoint him a sign unto men and a mercy from Us". The Koran says that Jesus is the Word and Spirit of Allah. Man equally has Spirit. How is the Spirit of man not man? If God's Spirit caused Mary's pregnancy and the child-Jesus was the Spirit and Word of God, what made it impossible for that same Spirit given birth to by Mary to live in human form? When Allah's Spirit was breathed into Mary to become the living Word, did He cease to be Allah in essence? Continued

TO: DAN MUSLMI 2

See Sura xvii:85,Bukhari 1:33:127.
Your argument on Mark 10:18 is that Christ could not be God because He told the man that only God is good. But He did not also tell the man that He was not good or He was not God. It was a question to prove to the the man that he did not know God as he claimed or His commandments considering his reaction when told to go and distributed his riches to the poor, take up his cross and then follow the Lord. The man was paying lip service for he would have explained why he thought Christ was good. Jesus saw through his deceit and put him to the test and the man failed. The man did not mean what he said. However, no sensible person will jump up and shout "yes I am good." That was not the nature of Christ who was the epitome of humility. He dined with the leper, Simon(Matthew 26:6), associated with the outcasts (Mathew 9:11) including those who did not belong to His religion. After healing the sick He told them not to publicize it. Continued

TO: DAN MUSLMI 1

Christian believe in one God as correctly stated in Deutrenomy 6;4 " Hear,O! Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord". We believe that this same God manifests Himself in three dimensions - His wisdom and might( the Father who created all things), His love and redemptive role after the fall of man(the Son) and as His ever omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent(the Holy Spirit). That was why Christ assured that He would ask the Father to send the Comforter who will dwell with and teach us.
If the Christian is wrong about the Holy Trinity why does Allah refer to himself in the plural forms of Us, We, Our, Ourselves? There are close to 1500 of such references in the koran. Surely, that cannot be a mistake or an oversight. Trying to deny what is so glaring shows a failure to grasp the personality of the Holy Trinity. Mohammad came close to admitting this failure when he said that the knowledge of the Holy Spirit is with Allah who has given man only a small portion. Continued.